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skirnir

11-08-2007 08:49 AM

(VA gun laws) wisest way to acquire

In Virginia, does one have to register a gun purchase not done through a dealer, or do a background check? I assume records of FFLs are kept, as are those of background checks...

I looked on TheHighRoad and could not find one for sale nearby, so the crux lies within the answer of the following conundrum: should I hasten and do an FFL, or should I wait and possibly stay under the radar, even if I must pay for the luxury.

Also, I shall go to the gun club this weekend; I sent an email to the president but have yet to get a reply.

Tn...Andy

11-08-2007 09:12 AM

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Private sales, no paperwork, federally....you might check locally.

See also Packing.org

Personally, I don't like the paperwork, but I also take the position that once bought, what's mine is mine.....and nobody is getting it unless I consent.

bl96S5eu

11-08-2007 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 819629)

See also Packing.org

Actually packing.org is not what it once was, there have been a few of the state moderators (or whatever their title is) that have had problems updating the site and I've noticed the site is up/down but mostly down lately. Like all things web it evolves and I'm working on finding a few 'replacements' for packing.org but here are a few so far.
http://handgunlaw.us/
http://www.gunlaws.com/links/

Forgot one, although the organization doesn't synch with gun owners their information is accurate and easy to read:
http://www.stategunlaws.org/

VA Laws
http://www.stategunlaws.org/viewstate.php?st=VA

diogenes

11-08-2007 09:54 AM

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In va a non-felon can buy a gun from a private person..face to face, peovided both parties are Va residents.
I usually just look at thier drivers license.
Sometimes the other party wants a reciept.

Hivemindgammahydra7

11-08-2007 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 819629)

Personally, I don't like the paperwork, but I also take the position that once bought, what's mine is mine.....and nobody is getting it unless I consent.

Right on.

Maybe I'm a moron but I still don't get why so many survival-minded individuals eschew sales on paper with the ferocity that they do. Yes, paperless is better, no question. But man, if the paper trail has become the means through which the State has decided to track down weapons and take them away from their owners, shouldn't that be an indication that the time has come to USE them?

<SLV>

11-08-2007 10:24 AM

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Check the classified ads in the paper. Also, post a WTB (Want to Buy) ad on TheHighRoad. I've had good success there.

Additionally, an occasional gun as will survive on CraigsList... if you know how to search for them. You can also do a WTB on CraigsList.

Baphomet Jones

11-08-2007 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 819771)

http://burlington.craigslist.org/wan/461258766.html

mine's still up, no takers :rolleyes_m: I was offered motorcycle parts, but I don't ride and wouldn't know how to resell.

Maybe I should post it in "for sale" instead of wanted.

Tn...Andy

11-08-2007 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Hivemindgammahydra7 (Post 819704)

Right on.

But man, if the paper trail has become the means through which the State has decided to track down weapons and take them away from their owners, shouldn't that be an indication that the time has come to USE them?

Yes...........

J.D.Rockinfeller

11-08-2007 12:15 PM

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Im in Wyoming...what the hail is a gun law?????:D

skirnir

11-08-2007 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by J.D.Rockinfeller (Post 820066)

Im in Wyoming...what the hail is a gun law?????:D

You lucky toad. I also heard there was a labor shortage :bear_w00t:

<SLV>

11-08-2007 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Skirnir (Post 820087)

You lucky toad. I also heard there was a labor shortage :bear_w00t:

If you like to work 60-80 hours a week capping/fracturing wells... year round.

skirnir

11-08-2007 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 820120)

If you like to work 60-80 hours a week capping/fracturing wells... year round.

Hmmm, sounds unappealing. I was hoping it involved sitting on my arse &/or goofing off like my current arrangement...

bl96S5eu

11-08-2007 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Skirnir (Post 820191)

Hmmm, sounds unappealing. I was hoping it involved sitting on my arse &/or goofing off like my current arrangement...

Are you an economist or do you work for some think tank?

skirnir

11-09-2007 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bl96S5eu (Post 820267)

Are you an economist or do you work for some think tank?

I'm sort of an economist; I handle my cousin's company's money :wink:

J.D.Rockinfeller

11-09-2007 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 820120)

If you like to work 60-80 hours a week capping/fracturing wells... year round.

naah slv...thats for kids...the REAL $ is still in building/construction.....some contractors are DESPERATE for a white guy who will show up sober and consistent.

Hivemindgammahydra7

11-09-2007 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by J.D.Rockinfeller (Post 822563)

...some contractors are DESPERATE for a white guy who will show up sober and consistent.

Uh oh. Don't say that.

Our resident GIM open-borders profiteer-traitors will see these words and seize upon such comments as yet another opportunity to try and cleanse their filthy consciences with more "our economy will crash without barbarian invaders" mantra.

<SLV>

11-09-2007 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by J.D.Rockinfeller (Post 822563)

naah slv...thats for kids...the REAL $ is still in building/construction.....some contractors are DESPERATE for a white guy who will show up sober and consistent.

Too true. I've got a friend who has a framing business, and he has been driving from Greeley to Cheyenne for the past few weeks. It seems that the housing slowdown has caused for an exodus of... :ahem:... cheap foreign labor, and now general contractors are actually paying MORE because they have to give honest wages to honest citizens.

morganchaser

11-09-2007 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hivemindgammahydra7 (Post 819704)

Geurrilla warfare is more effective than resisting arrest.

skirnir

11-10-2007 06:32 AM

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Got a response

Quote:

You have received a new private message at THR from BradleyW, entitled "5.45 ammo".

This is the message that was sent:
***************
I have 3200 rounds of ammo and 4 bakelight mags I would sell for $375.00.
Let me know if you are interested.
Thanks,

5.45 ammo is the same as 5.62x39 as far as AKs are concerned? Also, what are bakelight mags, and what do they do, and is the price reasonable for the lot?

Silvestor

11-10-2007 04:13 PM

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CDNN Sports has a bunch of good deals on pistols; used Berretta 96F is selling for $299, while used Glock 22 is selling for $369.

Catalog(wont download with firefox, use Internet Explorer)
http://www.cdnninvestments.com/dowournewcat.html

They do not list pistol prices in the online catalog above, but they do in the mail-order catalog that is sitting in front of me. If you want to know any prices, let me know the page number.

http://i8.tinypic.com/6nr1qfr.gif

Hivemindgammahydra7

11-11-2007 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by morganchaser (Post 823059)

Geurrilla warfare is more effective than resisting arrest.

I completely agree. :bear_thumb:

skirnir

11-11-2007 10:17 PM

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Still not sure what to make of that PMed offer; any help would be appreciated

Abouthadit

11-11-2007 10:41 PM

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5.45 is NOT the same as 7.62x39 the standard AK-47 round. Never heard of a 5.62, better check your numbers. The 5.45x39 is the AK-74 round. BTW the 5.45 is the caliber, the 39 is the length of the brass in mm.
Always check your receiver before attempting to fire any ammo through it. If not sure, or if the receiver is not marked, DONT SHOOT IT.
Good luck.
BTW: bakelite is a type of material used to manuf the magazines. Usually an AK-74 round.

bl96S5eu

11-12-2007 10:04 AM

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Skirnir it looks like you might be getting confused as to what calibers apply to what rifles or you just typed the wrong number. Since a picture is worth a thousand words here's a picture of the different calibers for size comparison. Sorry for the extra caliber but I didn't have another picture handy.

See pic below:
Left -> Right: 5.56x45 (ignore), 5.45x39 (AK-74) and 7.62x39 (AK-47)

skirnir

11-12-2007 02:59 PM

Re: (VA gun laws) wisest way to acquire

Thanks for the advice; I didn't reply to the offer as it was the wrong ammo.

Besides the AK itself, and the 7,62x39 ammo, what components should I buy for the AK? In addition, should I go ahead and just get an FFL transfer, as I cannot find anything locally?

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